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Patricia Perez's avatar

Leslie has been (unbeknownst to her) a guiding light for me in my twenties and now as I enter into my thirties. Thank you for being such a safe and refreshing part of the internet (and world)!

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Aw, that's lovely, Patricia! I think Leslie's been a guiding light for so many of us. I agree, she does offer a safe and refreshing landing!

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Leslie Stephens's avatar

Patricia! This is so lovely to read! Thank you, thank you. x

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Shalamar Iris Outlaw's avatar

Pema Chödrön’s - The Places That Scare You, and Mary Oliver’s - Devotions are staples in my own book cubby!

“Am I a walking cliché of someone going through a spiritual crisis and awakening? Yes.”

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Me too, beautiful Leslie. Me, too. 🙏🏼 🤍

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Yes to The Places That Scare You! I'm embarrassed to admit I haven't read Devotions in its entirety but will now!! And yes to also being a walking cliche! Well, we're all in good company!

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Alicia M. Rodriguez's avatar

It’s amazing how poetry has this ability to heal wounds and open us to new possibilities. Like Leslie, Mary Oliver is a poet I read to soothe my heart and to remind myself that I am brave and resilient. One of my favorite poems, Wild Geese, reminds me:

You do not have to be good.

You do not have to walk on your knees

for a hundred miles through the desert repenting.

You only have to let the soft animal of your body

love what it loves.

Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.

Lovely interview. So grateful I came across it today.

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Oooooh, I love that poem! I used to be able to recite it by heart. Yes, poetry is so healing! I'm glad you enjoyed the interview! 🌸

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Leslie Stephens's avatar

Thank you so much for having me, Jane! I've told you before, but your kindness and curiosity ignites mine :) Honored to be featured in your beautiful newsletter!

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Oh, that's so lovely! Thank you! And likewise! So happy to have you here!

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Beyond grateful to be here's avatar

Amazement. Love that! Loved everything about this. Kindness begets kindness. My heart soars at those 3 words.

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

I agree!

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Amy Brown's avatar

Loved this interview! Huge fan of Leslie’s work & subscriber to Morning Person. I too reread Eat Pray Love last year after my three decades’ marriage ended (my choice). It was a much more visceral experience when I was that woman on the bathroom floor, as Leslie also described. I too love Mary Oliver & dip into Devotions but now inspired by Leslie’s poem-a-day practice. So many points of connection & resonance here!💗 A Mary Oliver line that has become my mantra: ‘There is nothing more pathetic than caution when headlong might save a life, even, possibly, your own.’

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Wow, yes, lots of resonance! I'm also going to try my hand at the poem-a-day practice And wonderful quote! Thanks for sharing that!

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Satya Doyle Byock's avatar

So beautiful. I love this interview, and I love Leslie!

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Satya! Yes, Leslie is the best!

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Leslie Stephens's avatar

A dream come true would be Jane coming to Portland, so the three of us can share a meal! x

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Ooooh, I would love that! ❤️

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Gary Gruber's avatar

"To stay curious and kind, and to continue to engage in and strengthen my community."

Boom! Speaks volumes about Leslie because when we commit to curiosity, kindness and authentic engagements, life becomes more joyful and blessed. The rewards of a life well-lived are love and hope. A friend of mine gave me this mantra: "Tell the truth, be kind and remember to say thank you."

Thank you, Jane, and Leslie!

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

Oooooh, that's a lovely mantra. And the truth can be a form of kindness!

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Leslie Stephens's avatar

Thank you for the kind words, and for the lovely mantra, Gary!

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Niamh Fahy's avatar

I read Tuesdays with Morrie at a really difficult time. It resonated so deeply with me, I truly believe reading it changed the course of my life. Thank you Jane for the wonderful interview.

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

I'm so glad you enjoyed it, Niamh. You know, I've not yet read that book! Perhaps it's time....

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Emmy Schneider-Green's avatar

As a Sylva Nc resident and frequent visitor to City Lights, that part made me do a double take, and smile! I’m sure many a revelation has been had in that shop - it’s such a magical place, and wish I had bumped into you there!

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

I've not been there but it does sound magical. Yes, how lovely if you had bumped into Leslie! Perhaps a future date!

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María Luisa Miller's avatar

I look forward to her writing so much each week and deeply admire her courage and vulnerability. Didn’t didn’t know she was a fellow Wellesley alumna until this interview!

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

So glad you enjoyed the interview, Maria! Yes, I admire Leslie so much, as well! Very courageous!

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J. Paul Moore's avatar

I knew I would like you when you expressed how much you love Mary Oliver’s book Devotion, and that you discovered it at City Lights Bookstore in Sylvia, NC, which is a special place for me

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Jane Ratcliffe's avatar

I know you're speaking to Leslie here but I just want to jump on board and say, I agree! And I'm glad you enjoyed the interview!

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Anne Kadet's avatar

“Toast” is a good name for a dog!

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